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The forks on the 2005 NSS250 are OK. They don't completely suck like those on the Ruckus, but they do need some tuning.
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==The Parts==
 
==The Parts==
 
The fork of the Reflex is a classic damper rod type construction. It has no external preload adjustment.
 
The fork of the Reflex is a classic damper rod type construction. It has no external preload adjustment.
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==Springs==
 
==Springs==
Once I take the fork appart, I will rate the stock spring, measure it's size and order a straight rate spring of a higher rate.
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After getting the bike to sag 35mm, the resulting 11mm of free sag is just too small. It should be between 15 and 20 mm, a stiffer spring should be ordered.
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The stock spring is 269mm long and 26mm in diameter. I think that the ID is around 20mm (poor measurement).
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The spring was a classic dual rate spring, but I didnt rate it. I was in a rush.
  
 
==Preload==
 
==Preload==
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I did a basic sag on the bike. Measurement of chrome showing under the clamp and above the dust seal.
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*Unlaiden Length - 105mm
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*Free Lenth - 83mm
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*Sagged Lenth - 59mm
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Basically, the bike is sagging 46mm. Typically, a standard motorcycle front end should sag 35mm for street riding. I added an 11mm spacer to raise the bike's ride height. 11mm height x 25.4mm diameter.
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==Fluid==
 
==Fluid==
 
Stock fluid for this type of fork tends to be speced at ISO 34. Typically a damper rod fork requires a fluid of at least ISO 65 to start marginally working in slow speed.
 
Stock fluid for this type of fork tends to be speced at ISO 34. Typically a damper rod fork requires a fluid of at least ISO 65 to start marginally working in slow speed.
  
I will change the oil to Red Line (Heavy), ISO 66.80.
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I changed the oil to Red Line (Heavy), ISO 66.80.
  
I need to get a service manual for the correct oil height.
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Oil height was kept the same at 75mm.
  
 
==Valving==
 
==Valving==
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If I cannot, I hope to add a [http://www.racetech.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=8&subcat=6&cat=Gold+Valve+Cartridge+Emulators&L2=Forks&L3=Fork+Valving&L4=Gold+Valve+Cartridge+Emulators&showPage=street Gold Valve Cartridge Emulator]
 
If I cannot, I hope to add a [http://www.racetech.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=8&subcat=6&cat=Gold+Valve+Cartridge+Emulators&L2=Forks&L3=Fork+Valving&L4=Gold+Valve+Cartridge+Emulators&showPage=street Gold Valve Cartridge Emulator]
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==The Ride==
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In stock form, the fork felt spindly. Harsh on bumps and lots of pitching.
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After adding 11mm of preload and changing to ISO 66.80 oil, the front end feels much, much better. The forks have a solid, smooth feel. Much better over bike bumps.
  
  

Revision as of 15:56, 24 October 2007

The forks on the 2005 NSS250 are OK. They don't completely suck like those on the Ruckus, but they do need some tuning.

The Parts

The fork of the Reflex is a classic damper rod type construction. It has no external preload adjustment.

Honda-NSS250-Reflex-fork.gif

Springs

After getting the bike to sag 35mm, the resulting 11mm of free sag is just too small. It should be between 15 and 20 mm, a stiffer spring should be ordered.

The stock spring is 269mm long and 26mm in diameter. I think that the ID is around 20mm (poor measurement).

The spring was a classic dual rate spring, but I didnt rate it. I was in a rush.

Preload

I did a basic sag on the bike. Measurement of chrome showing under the clamp and above the dust seal.

  • Unlaiden Length - 105mm
  • Free Lenth - 83mm
  • Sagged Lenth - 59mm

Basically, the bike is sagging 46mm. Typically, a standard motorcycle front end should sag 35mm for street riding. I added an 11mm spacer to raise the bike's ride height. 11mm height x 25.4mm diameter.

Fluid

Stock fluid for this type of fork tends to be speced at ISO 34. Typically a damper rod fork requires a fluid of at least ISO 65 to start marginally working in slow speed.

I changed the oil to Red Line (Heavy), ISO 66.80.

Oil height was kept the same at 75mm.

Valving

I hope to convert the fork to a cartridge type. I have some parts laying around, all I need is the room.

If I cannot, I hope to add a Gold Valve Cartridge Emulator

The Ride

In stock form, the fork felt spindly. Harsh on bumps and lots of pitching.

After adding 11mm of preload and changing to ISO 66.80 oil, the front end feels much, much better. The forks have a solid, smooth feel. Much better over bike bumps.